Indonesia Anonymus

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Wednesday, June 21, 2006

127 Hatemails

We just got back from Yogya when our secretary reported to us: the Indonesia Anonymus email address was flooded with hatemail.
We know this would happen eventually. Part of the risk of blogging, really. So we are fine with it. But not our secretary, who had to clear the mailbox without accidently deleting the legitimate emails we receive from you, our beloved readers.

How could this happen, one colleague wonders. We use gmail and gmail blocks spam really well. How did this junks got through?

Apparently the answer is simple: he/she/they sent the emails manually. Yes folks. One by one, using various free-email addresses. One hundred twenty seven emails.
The subject is gibberish (but never the same), the content is also of the gibberish variation followed by some 'overly-sweet' message.
Oh, how flattering.

This shows that someone with determination, incredible patience, hardwork, and some degree of lunacy can always beat any spam-blocking technology known to man.

So what was the message? Well, here it is. All translated (roughly though, we are not a pro translator), for your entertainment. We also give some response here and there, just in case the sender(s) of the emails is(are) reading this too.

"Hey. You cowards.
Why are you defending the P magazine? (naming one controversial magazine, you know what). And why being such a coward using anonymous name?"


Well, well, well. So this is about one blog we wrote a while back. This one. We suggest you (our beloved reader) to read it first if you haven't read it yet.

"And why did you write your blog in english? So arrogant. You are Indonesians. Write in Bahasa Indonesia. Be patriotic. And why did you insult *** in your blog? (naming one organization frequently described as militant/hardliners). I am not a member of ***, but I will not let you ridicule them."

You are not a member? Really? Well, maybe you should sign up. You certainly have what it takes.

We write in english because this is the internet. The blog can be opened by anybody, in any part of the world. We just thought it would be nice if anybody who open our blog can read it and understand it. After all, that's the main reason why one blogs, no? To be read?

"All we are doing is defending our country from bad influence coming from America. P magazine is pornographic, no matter how they disguise it. And if the government will not do anything to stop it, we will, in any way possible.
Why are you defending the magazine? Does it mean you are also against the anti-pornography legislation? Do you want to see our younger generations become immoral?"


Right. Who are 'we' in this case? Didn't you say you are not one of them?
But anyway. About the magazine: We never buy the magazine.
We don't support it. We support the rule of law. This is what we think: If the magazine breaks the law, bring it to court. Prosecute. But if not, leave it alone.

Those who break the law should be prosecuted, and those who obey the law should be protected. It's that simple.

That brings us to the anti-pornography law. Are we against it? We never said that in our blog. But this is what we think: Just because we have some law passed doesn't mean our problems will be solved magically. Want example? Look at Indonesia's drug abuse problem. We have all the law we need.
Tough one too: Illicit drug trafficking is punishable by death.
Does it mean our drug-abuse problem is decreasing?
No. It continuously goes UP [1]. What does that tell you?

"You are useless. We at least fight for what we believe. We go to the street. We have demonstrations. We pressure the government to pass the law because we believe the law is good for the country."

Right. Good for you. Now think about this: while you were out there, on the street, protesting, demonstrating, etc. Do you know what your kids are doing at home?
Are you sure they are not logging into the internet and downloading the Paris Hilton video?
We do what we can: we have our career, we pay our taxes, and we do our best to educate our children. We teach them to respect different opinions, different cultures, different values. Underline the word 'respect'. We cannot force other people to accept our values, or vice versa. But we can learn to respect one another.

"You should apologize for what you wrote on your blog. Defending the P magazine and ridiculing *** is not acceptable. We demand you to write an apology on your blog, and delete the posting. Do you think by being anonymous we cannot find you?"
... and the mail went on about some scary stuff they will do to us if (or when) they find us. Couldn't really translate them.

Apologize? For what? We did not do anything wrong.
You are going to harm us?
Well, this is what we've got to say: bring it on.

In closing, the email wrote:
May you burn in hell.

Well, well, well. We think hatemail senders will go to hell too, you know.
So if you happened to be there before us, do us a favor: don't wait up.

(we don't think you'll have much of a posthumous gloating either...)

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Note to our readers:
We refuse to write the name of the magazine nor the name of the militant organization for one simple reason: writing them too often will make our blog popped out more frequently when people 'google' those keywords. We don't need that, do we?

Source:
[1] Sinar Harapan - Pengguna Narkoba Meningkat

23 Comments:

Blogger treespotter said...

how come i never get any hatemails?? I am so jealous!

ah..

maybe people love me :p


PS: Welcome home guys!

1:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep on blogging, never mind those hatemails. We need to show the world that we 'Indonesians' are not just a bunch of fanatics. We're once known as an open minded people. So, let's prove that to the world. For that person(s) who sent those hatemails, shame on you for trying to force your own opinion upon others. Instead of putting to much energy into non essential matters, why don't we put our minds together to fight the rising poverties in Indonesia ?

5:21 AM  
Anonymous Andry said...

Well, from the way I see it you already knew how risky blog is at the first place. Despite of your “dancing words” I love to learn one or two things from this blog because you have a gut. Writing for popular demand –pleasing everyone—wouldn’t take us nowhere but writing our opinion (with true intention, I trust you) draws controversy but in time build a credibility.

You already knew that.

Although my haters are not obsessive as yours, I’ve received hatemails too. Some people really take everything for granted.

So far, I’m not writing a counter-attack because I’m afraid that I can be one of them. You see, we are what we love. And unfortunately sometime, we are what we hate.

Darth Vadder, Moby Dick’s Ishmael, and our three letter organization you are referring to are fine example of these. Fighting fire with fire, that is replying hatemails with more hatemails (or hateposts), only proves ourselves that we are much much lower than we hate.

In the other hand, your post is a smart fire.

One way or another, I need a man/woman/people/Klingons/whoever-you-are-guys to kick their butt as remainders.

So, bring it on :)

8:20 AM  
Blogger Aco said...

Indonesia Anonymus, I don't care who you guys are :-) But I really like your blog -- I'm a fan. Keep posting!

9:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say arguing with such ppl , is like wrestling with pigs in mud. You may win but you must know that pigs loves wrestling in mud

9:56 AM  
Blogger roi said...

you rocks dude....

11:18 AM  
Anonymous indonesia-anonymus said...

Thank you folks, for the sweet words.

just for the record, in agreement with what Andry wrote, this post is not intended as a counter-attack or a revenge. That never crossed our mind.

We just think -- as one anonymous comment pointed out:
We need to show the world that we 'Indonesians' are not just a bunch of fanatics.

We don't go to the street, protesting, demonstrating, yelling at people.
We like to think of ourselves as part of the silent majority.
And just because we are silent does not mean we have no opinion.

But then again:

"arguing with such ppl , is like wrestling with pigs in mud. You may win but you must know that pigs loves wrestling in mud"

Ah, how very true...

That's the thing about blogging: we learn something new everytime.

Thank you all of you.

6:00 PM  
Anonymous [ r ] said...

bring it on!

6:00 PM  
Blogger agus set said...

I think if those fanatic people can found your home or office addresses, they will intimidate you as they've been done to some people who diasgree with RUU APP...

7:01 PM  
Anonymous ak said...

I support you! There is more to Indonesia than just fanatics and anarchists.

7:22 PM  
Blogger rip3b3rry said...

If Indonesian should use only Bahasa Indonesia, if Indonesian should think only one idea, if Indonesian should have only one faith, then why Indonesia should develop? why Indonesia should become civilize? why don't we stay as barbarians like we use to be.

Perhaps that would have been nice for all of us, no one ever more clever than everyone else. And as for you, Indonesian Anonymus, you will not get many haters mails if all of us are barbarics. You will just get an axe on your back if only you're prying on my meal.

Anyway, luv u n keep on going, for I'll never become a barbarian.

7:56 PM  
Blogger Hedi said...

Respect...that is what I learn from your posting :)

Keep it up, guys!

10:01 PM  
Anonymous rendy said...

haha.. ciken banget sih itu orang.. pake ngirim hate mail segala..

gw hargai anonimus (gimana si nulisnya) seseorang, kadang gw juga anonimus untuk memberikan informasi yang berguna bagi orang banyak tetapi memiliki tingkat bahaya yang tinggi

mustinya tu orang kalo ga suka sama tulisan, nyerangnya jangan di koment dong.. nulis di blog nya sendiri..

di blog gw juga sama.. sering ada yang nyerang, dulu masi di tanggepin, sekarang2 ignore aja, tp gw masih nyimpen IP addressnya

jujur aja gw ga suka gaya orang yang ngirim hate mail sebagai gaya nya dalam menghadapi masalah blog... meski beberapa postingan kadang kontroversial, tetapi tetap harus dihargai buah pemikirannya.

ayo dunk... ngeblog...

*apprup ya :D *

9:33 AM  
Anonymous VaNYa said...

Before I read the whole entry, I read the related post first.

I know there is something wrong with some of Indonesian's point of view but somehow I try to ignore it.
However it's not that easy to ignore it when you read that entry.
It makes me sad.

And THIS ENTRY makes me even sadder.
How come they think using correct english to write a blog is an unpatriotic but on the other hand they do anarchy?

I think they have different definition of patriotic.

10:28 AM  
Anonymous hamid said...

Regardless, my disagreement to those hatemails, I am also disagree for some of your points...


We need to show the world that we 'Indonesians' are not just a bunch of fanatics.

Should we? Why is "the world opinion" so important to make us need to show them something? I think that this kind of mentality that make us left behind. Have nothing to proud, have nothing to stand out.

Furthermore, what a word "fanatics" really means? is that bad? not really... How a fanatic citizen, Japanese are, especially the samurai... they are so fanatic with their value... or even Germany... or even football spectators in Europe... Yes, they have a dark history as weel, but indeed, when you can direct it to the right direction, it is all what we need to make our country better...

I just dont get it, why people so proud to declare themselves as an open minded person... The last story that I heard about open-minded-reason was when my friend pushed by her colleage to eat pork, as an act to show respect to their boss... I do respect other opinion, but when it came close to something that I believe in, I have to fight for it, no matter what the risk is... and if that make me be classified as an not-open-minded person... I am OK with that...

We don't go to the street, protesting, demonstrating, yelling at people.
We like to think of ourselves as part of the silent majority.
And just because we are silent does not mean we have no opinion.


Why dont us? If you took people around the world action as example to judge whether something is right or not... then, they do go to the street, protesting, demonstrating, or even yelling at people. See how Korean protest their gov, or even it worked to bring our country to the new era from 32 years dark "age" of our history... Besides, what is the point of having opinion if we keep silent? Oh-ya-I-noe-that-is-wrong-but-I-just-keep-silent behavior was indeed, thing that made us in a trap of "kiss-ass" society mentality for 32 years...

Those who break the law should be prosecuted, and those who obey the law should be protected. It's that simple

It is hard for me to make a comment for your point above... Is it very simple to say... but my son.... are you really believe it's also "that simple" to apply it?

At last, I have to say that I am disagree with you as well, but then again... I do respect one who have a faith and stand with it, no matter what the risk is...

6:39 AM  
Blogger oigal said...

Hi all,
Isn't sad that those that so many that disagree in this country with you have to instantly resort to violence (or threats of same. Is their position so weak that is the only recourse..

Whilst you were helping people caught in the earthquake, he was writing hate mails about sums the relative worth to society.

10:08 AM  
Blogger Indonesia Anonymus said...

Dear Hamid,
Thank you for your opinion and we appreciate your disagreement. Kindly take our response below as a matter of discussion and not as an invitation to a banter:

Why is "the world opinion" so important to make us need to show them something? I think that this kind of mentality that make us left behind.

We just don't want our country's image to be represented by people who like to resort to violence as a way of solving problems. We are a civilized nation, and we want Indonesia's image to be portrayed as such. That's all.

The last story that I heard about open-minded-reason was when my friend pushed by her colleage to eat pork, as an act to show respect to their boss

Being open-minded does not mean abandoning one's own principle.
You can stick to your own principle and still be open-minded.

Being open-minded means we respect each other's opinions, ideas, values.
Most of us are muslims too. We don't eat pork, even when we travel to western countries or dine with non-muslims. When we did a toast, we had orange-juice while others had champagne. No problem there.

Besides, what is the point of having opinion if we keep silent?

Dear Hamid, just by being silent DOES NOT MEAN WE DON'T DO ANYTHING.

Some people prefer to do things with their mouth shut.
Action speaks louder than words.

If there is one mentality that makes us left behind, that is:
We talk way too much and we don't walk the talk.

"There should be less talk; a preaching point is not a meeting point. What do you do then? Take a broom and clean someone's house. That says enough."

That's not from us. That was from Mother Theresa.

6:28 PM  
Anonymous hamid said...

Dear all of you, who ranting about our beloved country.

Thanks for the response. I do appreciate it. I hope my second comment here is also classified as a matter of discussion, but if you think it will lead us to a type of communication that you call as "banter". Please accept my apology and you may not response this comment.

It is hard to define social phenomena, not as easy as physical phenomena that I familiar with as an electronic engineer student. Decrease the resistance or increase the voltage to increase the current. That's all. So simple.

But when it is about social phenomena, the parameter is extremely difficult to be limited. I did once have a chance to study about a complex system, and its amaze me to know that often, higher level of a system can behave in a manner which totally different from its part. You do mention about it when you use the drug abuse law to show that it is not straight away decrease drug abuse problem, but then, it also does not mean that the law have nothing to do to decrease it, and maybe without the regulation, it will increase in a higher level than now.

Back to our topic, the way you define the "open-minded" term is nicely done. But I'm afraid that what happen is not nice as your definition. It is become a term to prejudice people who strongly believe in their faith or religion. I believe that one who disagree with P*magazine or even agree with RUU-APP is not instantly a not-open-minded person. In the other hand, one who easily accept it MAYBE a not-open-minded people because they only MAYBE make their opinion based on one point of view, in this case western culture.

I do accept your definition of silent majority and my highest respect for all of you. I do look forward to see your action to make a better Indonesia. But again, sometimes word is sharper than a sword. What we are doing rite now have no different with talk, rite? We use the technology, instead of mouth. But we do deliver our idea, and idea is the thing that makes people do the actions... make ourselves do the action...

Last, I want to stay that I am against the magazine, but I'm indeed against violence. The regulation is urgently needed, and it makes me support the RUU-APP, of course with a lot of revision.

I am not a perfect person, and when the time comes, I will not be a perfect parent. At least 3 environments that will influence children: family, school, and society (government in this case). I cannot control all of them, or even cannot control my family perfectly. Many things are inevitable, especially with technology nowadays. But at least, when I'm not at home, I will be worry and wondering whether my children surf the porn-site ONLY, not worry if they surf the porn-site OR read the porn-magazine.

1:22 AM  
Blogger Indonesia Anonymus said...

Hamid,

You should write that on your blog.
Pity for such long and good writing to be displayed only in this little comment box...

Always enjoy your (opposing, complementing) views.

Let's see if other readers will have anything to say about your opinion, shall we?

1:28 AM  
Anonymous ryosaeba said...

this is what we call tunnel vision. btw, are we open minded enough to accept that the sun rotates around the earth, not the other way around?

9:10 AM  
Blogger gagahput3ra said...

Well...i got some hatemails, but not for the "P" magazine, but about Radja band.....i think the man that send such a crap like hatemail are jealous because he makes a blog but can't get people sending them hatemail XD

BTW, hello! I'm noob here

10:03 AM  
Blogger Devi said...

I'm Indonesian, but I use English on my blog. So what gtu loh?

7:47 PM  
Blogger matahari-matahari said...

Anonymous,
Keep blogging, feel sorry for these fanatic people, they need to get a life.

From England with love
Matahari

10:15 PM  

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